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				By: bondimermaid				</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Haydn

My apologies for such a long delay in replying to you. I had to put this blog on the back burner over the last couple of years with too much else going on.

But wow, that is really cool to hear that your grandfather delivered ice via a horse and cart (excuse the pun!). I believe there was an ice works in the area. Would love to know more about that. 

Yes you can still buy ice in Bondi...but you have to roll up to a petrol station and purchase it there...and it probably costs a lot more than anywhere else!

Thanks for joining the banter!

bondimermaid :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Haydn</p>
<p>My apologies for such a long delay in replying to you. I had to put this blog on the back burner over the last couple of years with too much else going on.</p>
<p>But wow, that is really cool to hear that your grandfather delivered ice via a horse and cart (excuse the pun!). I believe there was an ice works in the area. Would love to know more about that. </p>
<p>Yes you can still buy ice in Bondi&#8230;but you have to roll up to a petrol station and purchase it there&#8230;and it probably costs a lot more than anywhere else!</p>
<p>Thanks for joining the banter!</p>
<p>bondimermaid 🙂</p>
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				By: Haydn Denmeade				</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2023 05:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If we wanna get really old school (reminds me of a Mighty Boosh episode! ; ) my Grandfather used to deliver ice door to door in Bondi. Had a horse and cart believe it or not! La plus ça change. . . pretty sure you can still buy ice in Bondi. Or has that passed too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we wanna get really old school (reminds me of a Mighty Boosh episode! ; ) my Grandfather used to deliver ice door to door in Bondi. Had a horse and cart believe it or not! La plus ça change. . . pretty sure you can still buy ice in Bondi. Or has that passed too?</p>
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				By: bondimermaid				</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Donna

I recall al the places you have mentioned so I think we must be around the same age. And I was also a Dover girl. 

Thanks for contributing here. Apologies for this very late reply. Have been juggling way too much in the last few months.

I really miss the Gelato Bar....and so many other things. It&#039;s really a VERY different place now.   

bondimermaid :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Donna</p>
<p>I recall al the places you have mentioned so I think we must be around the same age. And I was also a Dover girl. </p>
<p>Thanks for contributing here. Apologies for this very late reply. Have been juggling way too much in the last few months.</p>
<p>I really miss the Gelato Bar&#8230;.and so many other things. It&#8217;s really a VERY different place now.   </p>
<p>bondimermaid 🙂</p>
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				By: Donna				</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 08:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You guys must be older than me as there was the westpac bank on one Corner of Hall and Gould Ave and a hardware store on the other when I was growing up.
I don&#039;t remember the Lebanese place in Hall st but do remember Israeli as for cafes the Gelato bar was small great gelato was owned by Mr and Mrs Romeo I played with their kids and my mum worked in the laundry mate near the Chapel by the sea Near the corner of Roscoe and Gould.
The Hannibal was owned by Harry mr Magoo never forget his glasses and wife I used to hang with their daughter Mary and there son Joseph. 
I played space invaders at Valise&#039;s milk bar and pinball machines loved the place.
There was the cosmopolitan cafe on Campbell pde  plus the fish and chip shop and the burger place on the corner of Hall and Campbell pde. I lived in the Biltmore hotel where my moth was a house cleaner. I went to Bondi beach public and Dover heights high also never wore a jumper and used to play in the burnt out Careole I remember so many places but mostly the Bondi hotel my mum drank there 7 days a week ohh and dont forget there was the Lebanese place called Yahabibi  on Campbell pde that was owned by Michelle Harrys brother and Ninos pizza yummo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys must be older than me as there was the westpac bank on one Corner of Hall and Gould Ave and a hardware store on the other when I was growing up.<br />
I don&#8217;t remember the Lebanese place in Hall st but do remember Israeli as for cafes the Gelato bar was small great gelato was owned by Mr and Mrs Romeo I played with their kids and my mum worked in the laundry mate near the Chapel by the sea Near the corner of Roscoe and Gould.<br />
The Hannibal was owned by Harry mr Magoo never forget his glasses and wife I used to hang with their daughter Mary and there son Joseph.<br />
I played space invaders at Valise&#8217;s milk bar and pinball machines loved the place.<br />
There was the cosmopolitan cafe on Campbell pde  plus the fish and chip shop and the burger place on the corner of Hall and Campbell pde. I lived in the Biltmore hotel where my moth was a house cleaner. I went to Bondi beach public and Dover heights high also never wore a jumper and used to play in the burnt out Careole I remember so many places but mostly the Bondi hotel my mum drank there 7 days a week ohh and dont forget there was the Lebanese place called Yahabibi  on Campbell pde that was owned by Michelle Harrys brother and Ninos pizza yummo.</p>
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				By: bondimermaid				</title>
				<link>http://bondibanter.com/before-bondi-became-a-brand/#comment-208298</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Stuart

Am just catching up on your comments here. Apologies I&#039;ve not been on top of checking into the blog this last year...re too much been going on with pandemic and other projects...one special Bondi project, will share more soon.

Funny that Colin Cool remembers you too....living in Bondi was such a &#039;small world&#039; thing.

As for Ya Habibi&#039;s...my other half and I announced our engagement at a dinner there with friends - in the 1990s!

Re your &#039;ramble&#039; above....I LOVE all the rich history you&#039;ve shared there, thank you...I remember Cliff Pime very well, because that was our local petrol station...my dad was loyal to Cliff, and I called him &quot;Uncle Cliff!&quot;

Have you seen Curlewis Street recently?

bondimermaid :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart</p>
<p>Am just catching up on your comments here. Apologies I&#8217;ve not been on top of checking into the blog this last year&#8230;re too much been going on with pandemic and other projects&#8230;one special Bondi project, will share more soon.</p>
<p>Funny that Colin Cool remembers you too&#8230;.living in Bondi was such a &#8216;small world&#8217; thing.</p>
<p>As for Ya Habibi&#8217;s&#8230;my other half and I announced our engagement at a dinner there with friends &#8211; in the 1990s!</p>
<p>Re your &#8216;ramble&#8217; above&#8230;.I LOVE all the rich history you&#8217;ve shared there, thank you&#8230;I remember Cliff Pime very well, because that was our local petrol station&#8230;my dad was loyal to Cliff, and I called him &#8220;Uncle Cliff!&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you seen Curlewis Street recently?</p>
<p>bondimermaid 🙂</p>
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				By: Paul				</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great place I was there in 1974 played for the knights league team.
Long time ago but also remember Albert ,. Saved my life one knight when a little under the weather and some bloke tried to beat the life out of me .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great place I was there in 1974 played for the knights league team.<br />
Long time ago but also remember Albert ,. Saved my life one knight when a little under the weather and some bloke tried to beat the life out of me .</p>
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				By: Stuart Fox				</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes Colin - I had a Commer Van in those days - the best looking &#039;Kombi&#039; style van available and the only one obtainable in automatic - it was my first brand new vehicle but sadly it was very unreliable - rusted quickly,  often blew head gaskets and eventually a con rod broke in the engine and punched a hole in the side of the block - &#039; had to get an exchange engine and just before that the auto failed.

I did some repairs myself but major jobs were fixed by Cliff Pime who had the Mercury Service Station opposite the shop in Curlerwiss St. Mr Axell also did some repairs at his &#039;Broadway Garage&#039; on the corner of Birriga Rd and O&#039;sullivan Rd. 

Robi Fekete who was an apprentice to Mr Axell took over the Broadway Garage from the latter, worked his entire life in the one place and retired a few years ago - the garage is now owned by Paul Stewart who runs the place under his own name and I still have some service done there.     

(I eventually had 2 shops in Curlewis St - firstly on the right end of the building and later on the corner of Wellington St when the people who ran a Deli there decided to close up.  I later moved my business to Bondi Rd (opposite Penkiville St - that latter shop had been an electrical store before my arrival - I joined with a guy named Jack Stein Who had a Hi-Fi store in the city to sell audio gear alongside my reconditioned refrigerators and washing machines etc, but the Hi-Fi gear didn&#039;t take off  .... well we tried. 

There was another electrical shop in Bondi Rd for a while - I think it was called  &#039;Swindells Radio&#039;,  another one in Hall St and Sheldon&#039;s Of Bondi - electrical and homeware / crockery, gifts and Driving School etc. in Curlewiss St near Gould St - Vic Sheldon moved the business started by his parents in the 1950&#039;s,  into a larger shop a few doors up and then to Old South Hd Rd, Rose Bay and eventually closed up about 30? years ago. His wife still lives in Diamond Bay. 

I also remember some other electrical shops in the Bondi / Junction area including Virginia Radio, Fiala Electric (Arnold Fiala) and Electro Centre run by Mr Fiala and his former partner Mr Philips from the 1950&#039;s I think - all these businesses were in Oxford St Bondi Junction. There were others too and a few hardware stores.  There was a few electrical shops around  &#039;Six Ways&#039; Bondi Beach - &#039;Six Ways Electrical&#039; (Nathan Rosenfeld) in Glenayre Ave and another one next to Carmel Cakes in O&#039;Brien St  John Hans Last - these 2 closed in Bondi around 1963  and joined to form Advance Electrical at 220 William St Kings Cross - now a gift and book shop. 

Other electrical shops were  Gardiner and Richardson in Glenayre Ave - I think they specialised also in servicing XRay equipment and another one in Hall St between Jaques Ave and Campbell Pde between Kremers Fabrics and the milk bar on the corner. A Mr. Cohne had a menswear shop at that bottom end of Hall St and there was another men&#039;s shop run by Bill McNiece opposite the Post Office. As I write this I recall more and more businesses including the Post Office Pharmacy on the corner of Jaques Ave and Hall St, and the old hardware store on the corner of Gould St - started about 1935 I was told.  Trevor Franke had a refrigeration shop on Cambell Pde and later moved to a sop on the corner of Hall, Gould St and Gould Lane - it was previously a butchers shop and later rebuilt for the ANZ bank, then rebuilt again with apartments above - the bank returned following reconstruction but has now closed so the place is vacant, as is Westpac, St George and the Commonwealth banks - the latter moved to a smaller premise on Campbell Pde a few years ago - I wonder how long it will remain? 

So Hall St once had around 3 hardware stores, 2-3 shoe shops, 2 menswear shops etc,  etc - now all gone - what have I forgotten?           

Back to my van and the radio - The 2 way was linked to a private investigator friend - Richard Fitzgerald - who ran a telephone answering service for me before mobile phones were readily available and I helped him on his jobs using my van - so I also became licensed as a Private Inquiry Agent, sub-licensed to Richard Fitzgerald.  

I wrote &#039;readily available&#039;  but most people would not be aware that car phones linked to the telephone system were first available in Sydney from 1948 - run by the PMG (Government PostMaster General which ran postal and &#039;phone services as a monopoly - however, this service was not automatic dialing - had to be used via an operator +  very, very expensive to buy and run and very rare - only 200 in Sydney and similar in Melbourne - long waiting list. 

The first Automatic car only system run by the government became available in 1980-81 and cost $6000.00 to buy - a briefcase-size main unit in the car boot + a drivers handset - for around $1000.00 PA to rent + around $1000,00 for &#039;connection&#039;  + very expensive call costs - there were only 6000 available in Sydney and similar in Melbourne  - it was a cellular system but only around 5 cells for the whole city - the local aerial was on the tower at the corner of Birrel St and Council St, the next one being at Pitt St in the city and then for the western suburbs in Homebush Bay. Compare that system to today&#039;s system - antennas every few blocks + cheap, tiny hand-held mobile &#039;phones for under a hundred dollars and low-cost calls!   

That&#039;s enough for one ramble through time - Cheers all, Stuart]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Colin &#8211; I had a Commer Van in those days &#8211; the best looking &#8216;Kombi&#8217; style van available and the only one obtainable in automatic &#8211; it was my first brand new vehicle but sadly it was very unreliable &#8211; rusted quickly,  often blew head gaskets and eventually a con rod broke in the engine and punched a hole in the side of the block &#8211; &#8216; had to get an exchange engine and just before that the auto failed.</p>
<p>I did some repairs myself but major jobs were fixed by Cliff Pime who had the Mercury Service Station opposite the shop in Curlerwiss St. Mr Axell also did some repairs at his &#8216;Broadway Garage&#8217; on the corner of Birriga Rd and O&#8217;sullivan Rd. </p>
<p>Robi Fekete who was an apprentice to Mr Axell took over the Broadway Garage from the latter, worked his entire life in the one place and retired a few years ago &#8211; the garage is now owned by Paul Stewart who runs the place under his own name and I still have some service done there.     </p>
<p>(I eventually had 2 shops in Curlewis St &#8211; firstly on the right end of the building and later on the corner of Wellington St when the people who ran a Deli there decided to close up.  I later moved my business to Bondi Rd (opposite Penkiville St &#8211; that latter shop had been an electrical store before my arrival &#8211; I joined with a guy named Jack Stein Who had a Hi-Fi store in the city to sell audio gear alongside my reconditioned refrigerators and washing machines etc, but the Hi-Fi gear didn&#8217;t take off  &#8230;. well we tried. </p>
<p>There was another electrical shop in Bondi Rd for a while &#8211; I think it was called  &#8216;Swindells Radio&#8217;,  another one in Hall St and Sheldon&#8217;s Of Bondi &#8211; electrical and homeware / crockery, gifts and Driving School etc. in Curlewiss St near Gould St &#8211; Vic Sheldon moved the business started by his parents in the 1950&#8217;s,  into a larger shop a few doors up and then to Old South Hd Rd, Rose Bay and eventually closed up about 30? years ago. His wife still lives in Diamond Bay. </p>
<p>I also remember some other electrical shops in the Bondi / Junction area including Virginia Radio, Fiala Electric (Arnold Fiala) and Electro Centre run by Mr Fiala and his former partner Mr Philips from the 1950&#8217;s I think &#8211; all these businesses were in Oxford St Bondi Junction. There were others too and a few hardware stores.  There was a few electrical shops around  &#8216;Six Ways&#8217; Bondi Beach &#8211; &#8216;Six Ways Electrical&#8217; (Nathan Rosenfeld) in Glenayre Ave and another one next to Carmel Cakes in O&#8217;Brien St  John Hans Last &#8211; these 2 closed in Bondi around 1963  and joined to form Advance Electrical at 220 William St Kings Cross &#8211; now a gift and book shop. </p>
<p>Other electrical shops were  Gardiner and Richardson in Glenayre Ave &#8211; I think they specialised also in servicing XRay equipment and another one in Hall St between Jaques Ave and Campbell Pde between Kremers Fabrics and the milk bar on the corner. A Mr. Cohne had a menswear shop at that bottom end of Hall St and there was another men&#8217;s shop run by Bill McNiece opposite the Post Office. As I write this I recall more and more businesses including the Post Office Pharmacy on the corner of Jaques Ave and Hall St, and the old hardware store on the corner of Gould St &#8211; started about 1935 I was told.  Trevor Franke had a refrigeration shop on Cambell Pde and later moved to a sop on the corner of Hall, Gould St and Gould Lane &#8211; it was previously a butchers shop and later rebuilt for the ANZ bank, then rebuilt again with apartments above &#8211; the bank returned following reconstruction but has now closed so the place is vacant, as is Westpac, St George and the Commonwealth banks &#8211; the latter moved to a smaller premise on Campbell Pde a few years ago &#8211; I wonder how long it will remain? </p>
<p>So Hall St once had around 3 hardware stores, 2-3 shoe shops, 2 menswear shops etc,  etc &#8211; now all gone &#8211; what have I forgotten?           </p>
<p>Back to my van and the radio &#8211; The 2 way was linked to a private investigator friend &#8211; Richard Fitzgerald &#8211; who ran a telephone answering service for me before mobile phones were readily available and I helped him on his jobs using my van &#8211; so I also became licensed as a Private Inquiry Agent, sub-licensed to Richard Fitzgerald.  </p>
<p>I wrote &#8216;readily available&#8217;  but most people would not be aware that car phones linked to the telephone system were first available in Sydney from 1948 &#8211; run by the PMG (Government PostMaster General which ran postal and &#8216;phone services as a monopoly &#8211; however, this service was not automatic dialing &#8211; had to be used via an operator +  very, very expensive to buy and run and very rare &#8211; only 200 in Sydney and similar in Melbourne &#8211; long waiting list. </p>
<p>The first Automatic car only system run by the government became available in 1980-81 and cost $6000.00 to buy &#8211; a briefcase-size main unit in the car boot + a drivers handset &#8211; for around $1000.00 PA to rent + around $1000,00 for &#8216;connection&#8217;  + very expensive call costs &#8211; there were only 6000 available in Sydney and similar in Melbourne  &#8211; it was a cellular system but only around 5 cells for the whole city &#8211; the local aerial was on the tower at the corner of Birrel St and Council St, the next one being at Pitt St in the city and then for the western suburbs in Homebush Bay. Compare that system to today&#8217;s system &#8211; antennas every few blocks + cheap, tiny hand-held mobile &#8216;phones for under a hundred dollars and low-cost calls!   </p>
<p>That&#8217;s enough for one ramble through time &#8211; Cheers all, Stuart</p>
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				By: Stuart Fox				</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Rino - thought you might remember me - ate at your place often and did some electrical repairs - I think you later moved to Old South Head Road in Rose Bay?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rino &#8211; thought you might remember me &#8211; ate at your place often and did some electrical repairs &#8211; I think you later moved to Old South Head Road in Rose Bay?</p>
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				By: Stuart Fox				</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya Habibi&#039;s in Gould St was the site of my first electrical appliance shop from 1967 to 1971 when I moved to 23 Curlewiss St (Colin Cool mentioned he remembered me as he lived in the flats above the shop).

(Next door to my shop in Curlewiss St was a Butcher shop (Mr Kosh) which later became a doctors surgery - recently the shop was demolished and during excavations on the site the house next door partially collapsed.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya Habibi&#8217;s in Gould St was the site of my first electrical appliance shop from 1967 to 1971 when I moved to 23 Curlewiss St (Colin Cool mentioned he remembered me as he lived in the flats above the shop).</p>
<p>(Next door to my shop in Curlewiss St was a Butcher shop (Mr Kosh) which later became a doctors surgery &#8211; recently the shop was demolished and during excavations on the site the house next door partially collapsed.)</p>
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				By: Stuart Fox				</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the late 1960&#039;s and early 70&#039;s I was on the committee of a club called Kadimah - for our social activities we ran dances at local resteraunts on Sunday nights when they were generally closed as people didnt dine out much on Sundays in those years - we often organised functions at the  Biltmore - in 1974 I was at a cafe in Detroit - visiting my uncle and aunt who lived there - our waitress looked strangely at me and asked if I ever went to the Biltmore &#062; small world!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the late 1960&#8217;s and early 70&#8217;s I was on the committee of a club called Kadimah &#8211; for our social activities we ran dances at local resteraunts on Sunday nights when they were generally closed as people didnt dine out much on Sundays in those years &#8211; we often organised functions at the  Biltmore &#8211; in 1974 I was at a cafe in Detroit &#8211; visiting my uncle and aunt who lived there &#8211; our waitress looked strangely at me and asked if I ever went to the Biltmore &gt; small world!</p>
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